Gotta be Frank Thomas H2O Aqua gloves. 40 odd quid, totally waterproof, and reasonably warm.
> Has anyone ever had a bike with those plastic hand guards on ? (That you get on > a trial bike) Can you buy them cheaply ? Do they keep the rain off your hands ?I've had a couple of bikes with these on - they're OK, but nowhere near as good as handlebar muffs. They can be got to fit just about any trail bike, or you can buy "generic" ones to hack and fit.
> Gotta be Frank Thomas H2O Aqua gloves. 40 odd quid, totally > waterproof, and reasonably warm. > > If they are only "reasonably" warm then cotton/thermal glove liners > should do the trick.I got mine for skiing and they made such a > difference I'd recommend them for anything although I don't whether > they'd be available in bike shops - a winter sports shop may have to > be ventured into > > Ian >The only thing I have found to keep hands dry, is a pair of overmits. The best performance/price compromise is the Hein Gericke ones, I think. They are long enough to come up your sleeves, and are elasticated round the cuffs. Also they have non-slip things on the palms. Being proofed nylon, they aren't _too_ difficult to get over wet leather (Rukka-type stuff sticks and won't slide on...) Price was about #8 I think.
You can save a few quid by going to a camping shop, but their overmits are usually too small to go over bike gloves easily, and aren't so long, aren't elasticated, and don't have the non-slip bits... Hein Gericke do mail order; 'phone 192 and ask for them at Blossom Street, York (sorry, don't have their number to hand).
Liquid Nikwax works well on leather for short periods - OK round town, but for hours on a motorway forget it! Don't use solid Nikwax, you'll find it leaves muck on the surface of the gloves, and the next time you wipe your visor you can't see a damn thing! And it takes some serious cleaning to get the stuff off - it's nearly impervious to saop and water...
They're Weise "Gladiator" (who thinks up these crap names???). Fowlers of Bristol, the distributors, sell them for #35. Local bike place got them for me for #29. Leather is good, very comfortable, BIKE rated them equalbest in their glove destruction test.
(I think the BIKE test was crap - glove strapped on a block of wood, strapped onto someone's boot, pressed against the road whilst hanging out the back of a Transit. A good glove could fail such an unrealistic test. However it was SO drastic, a glove that survived it is probably good!).
I haven't seen any other glove that's anywhere near as nice for under about #60, so I thought you might like to know about them! Most of the similar priced ones, eg Frank Thomas, are badly designed - single stitching, unprotected thumb seams, etc... And the Sportex #20 that BIKE also thought were excellent, have been discontinued!
Snag? I think only multi-coloured ones are available.
> Liquid Nikwax works well on leather for short periods - OK round town, but > for hours on a motorway forget it!Agreed.
> Don't use solid Nikwax, you'll find > it leaves muck on the surface of the gloves, and the next time you wipe > your visor you can't see a damn thing! And it takes some serious cleaning > to get the stuff off - it's nearly impervious to saop and water...That's why I use it on my gloves. It IS nearly impervious to water, and will keep out serious motorway rain for hours. Just don't wipe your visor with your gloves!